Excluded from many jobs due to lack of military service.
There are very few jobs that require prior military service these days, mostly jobs that require security clearance, which Arabs wouldn't get anyway, nor would majority of Russian immigrants, judging from anecdotal evidence. That's a matter of security, not of "rights".
The Land Fund precludes them at times from buying properties they seek.
This has to do with the Fund being originally created as a private enterprise within the Zionist project and people who invested in it spelled out specific conditions in its charter. In any case, the Arabs recently successfully fought this preclusion in Israel's Supreme Court of Justice.
No right to carry weapons which makes them an easy target for criminals, whether racially motivated or otherwise.
Please, please, where did you get this kind of bullshit? :) While the above two charges are pretty common, this is the first time I see this nonsense. First of all, violent crime in Israel is pretty low and most of it has to with criminal groups settling accounts or with "family honor" killings (guess, in which part of the society). Never do I remember anyone regarding his right to carry a weapon in Israel as a protection from criminals. In Israel people wander around in the middle of the night without fear. Also, I don't remember hearing that Arabs don't have right to own a weapon. They probably do not have an automatic right that those who served in the army have, but it does not mean they do not have this right. Finally, I only recall one racially motivated crime towards Israeli Arabs in recent decades - the shooting attack by a deserter soldier in Shfaram in August 2005, on the eve of the disengagement. "Racially motivated" is even a stretch here, since he clearly planned it as a provocation to set off riots and tie the hands of the police, making resources insufficient for carrying out disengagement. But I'll give it to you as a "racially motivated". Now, it was carried out in an Arab Druze town, the residents of which serve in the Israeli army, so there is no way they could be not allowed to carry weapons. And while at that, I would like to address your "for instance" as in "for instance Baruch Goldstein". There were three such cases in the last twenty years that I recall. I just mentioned the second one above. And the third one was in 1990, when a guy, who stole his soldier brother's M-16, went out and shot Arab (non-citizen) workers at a bus stop. He later (unsuccessfully) claimed insanity and, in fact, he was earlier commissioned by the army due to psychiatric problems. So, here you go, three cases in 16 years, all three met with wide condemnation and disgust. Of course, every society has it fringe fanatics and freaks. Show me one that doesn't. But it's the reaction of the government, the political parties, the media and the mainstream population that counts. So your attempts at creating some kind of moral equivalence are beyond stretching the truth. You stretch it so far, it breaks...
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Re: FYI
Date: 2006-03-16 12:12 pm (UTC)Excluded from many jobs due to lack of military service.
There are very few jobs that require prior military service these days, mostly jobs that require security clearance, which Arabs wouldn't get anyway, nor would majority of Russian immigrants, judging from anecdotal evidence. That's a matter of security, not of "rights".
The Land Fund precludes them at times from buying properties they seek.
This has to do with the Fund being originally created as a private enterprise within the Zionist project and people who invested in it spelled out specific conditions in its charter.
In any case, the Arabs recently successfully fought this preclusion in Israel's Supreme Court of Justice.
No right to carry weapons which makes them an easy target for criminals, whether racially motivated or otherwise.
Please, please, where did you get this kind of bullshit? :) While the above two charges are pretty common, this is the first time I see this nonsense.
First of all, violent crime in Israel is pretty low and most of it has to with criminal groups settling accounts or with "family honor" killings (guess, in which part of the society).
Never do I remember anyone regarding his right to carry a weapon in Israel as a protection from criminals. In Israel people wander around in the middle of the night without fear.
Also, I don't remember hearing that Arabs don't have right to own a weapon. They probably do not have an automatic right that those who served in the army have, but it does not mean they do not have this right.
Finally, I only recall one racially motivated crime towards Israeli Arabs in recent decades - the shooting attack by a deserter soldier in Shfaram in August 2005, on the eve of the disengagement. "Racially motivated" is even a stretch here, since he clearly planned it as a provocation to set off riots and tie the hands of the police, making resources insufficient for carrying out disengagement. But I'll give it to you as a "racially motivated". Now, it was carried out in an Arab Druze town, the residents of which serve in the Israeli army, so there is no way they could be not allowed to carry weapons.
And while at that, I would like to address your "for instance" as in "for instance Baruch Goldstein". There were three such cases in the last twenty years that I recall. I just mentioned the second one above. And the third one was in 1990, when a guy, who stole his soldier brother's M-16, went out and shot Arab (non-citizen) workers at a bus stop. He later (unsuccessfully) claimed insanity and, in fact, he was earlier commissioned by the army due to psychiatric problems.
So, here you go, three cases in 16 years, all three met with wide condemnation and disgust.
Of course, every society has it fringe fanatics and freaks. Show me one that doesn't. But it's the reaction of the government, the political parties, the media and the mainstream population that counts.
So your attempts at creating some kind of moral equivalence are beyond stretching the truth. You stretch it so far, it breaks...